Bloodlands has ratings and reviews. Mieczyslaw said: I was raised amongst survivors of the great horror that was the War in Eastern Europe. My. Tim Snyder’s ambitious Bloodlands set out to place the murderous regimes of the Third Reich and Stalin’s Soviet Union in their overlapping European contexts. Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin. By Timothy Snyder. (New York, NY: Basic Books, Pp. $) The author of this.

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Hardcoverpages. Real people, that once lived, loved and died in vain.

The attempt to set the Holocaust in a history of violence has for example been a consistent part of scholarship since even before the Second World War ended. The ruthlessness of Hitler and Stalin is apparent through-out.

But the Germans also shot and starved millions stailn people, as well as gassed and worked them to death. Mar 29, Dawne rated it it was amazing.

They forced others to collude in their plans by giving them a choice between that or death. He said this “is not a complete reckoning of all the death that Soviet and German power brought to the region”. What is apparent on the Soviet side is the predominant role of the NKVD in the creation and maintenance of a vast repressive state. Snyder looks at the mass killing campaigns of both Hitler and Stalin in the are between Germany and Russia, from to Poles focus on the Warsaw uprising; Jews on Auschwitz; Russians on the siege of Leningrad; Ukrainians on the great famine.

Apr 22, Brad Wheeler rated it it was amazing Shelves: Neal Ascherson’s The Black Sea: The major case where Eruope do rely upon estimates is the famine in Soviet Ukraine, where data are simply insufficient btween a count, and where I present a total figure on the basis of a number of demographic calculations and contemporary estimates.

So obviously, It’s very compact and as the topic alone reveals, terrible.


Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin

Snyder reasserted that European history of the Holocaust by putting Nazi anti-Jewish violence in the context of wider German violence against European populations, especially Poles, and also in the context of Soviet violence in the same spaces, for example in terms of the Holodomor. Stalin shares blame for Hitler’s killing spree? One example I found especially horrific were the words from a letter written by an Austrian soldier to his wife telling of how he is repeatedly shooting, on a daily basis, large numbers of Jews including women and children.

Quite massive, covering an extremely bloody and violent time and place in less than pages. The purpose of the apparently contradictory subsidies was quite straightforward: I still care for the little diary my mother kept, collecting all kind of illegal ejrope and forbidden cartoons.

Beyond the facts, though, Snyder tries to understand the people timoghy were both victims and perpetrators. Without history, the memories become private, which today means national; and the numbers become public, which is to say an instrument in the international competition for martyrdom. These people were murdered not because they refused to conform to his policies but because they were who they were.

Am I alone in suspecting that men like Trump and Putin are capable of the most horrific crimes regardless of the institutional constraints imposed on them? Not soldiers in battle. For Snyder’s offending review, see Timothy Snyder The outcome had to support their concept of the Great Patriotic War wherein all casualtie It is oft said that history is written by the victors, and this was the case with World War II. Lists with This Book. They sometimes held compatible goals as foes: The New York Review of Books.

Ben I’d say blopdlands has a lot less to do with socialism, and a lot more to do with two dictators obsession with race and nationality.

Snyder insists that the colossal atrocities in his “bloodlands” have to be set inside a single historical frame. Stalin regarded all Soviet prisoners-of-war as traitors. Though every 25 pages or so what appears on the page is so wrenching that one must close one’s eyes and shudder and wonder why this part of the story was largely unknown. The Nazi and Soviet regimes turned people into numbers, some of which sndyer can only estimate, some of which we can reconstruct with fair precision.


But Himmler, impatient, sent in the Einsatzgruppen on the heels of the advancing army to bbetween the slaughter. Market squares, now empty of both goods and customers, conveyed only the disharmonies of death. The answer was ‘no’. Apr 27, Nooilforpacifists rated it really liked it Shelves: The geographic area covered by the “Bloodlands” is limited to Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic states and western Russian regions occupied by Germany.

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Making use of many new primary and secondary sources from eastern Europe, Snyder brings scholarship to many forgotten, misunderstood, or incorrectly remembered parts of the history, particularly noting that most victims were killed outside the concentration camps of the respective regimes.

Jan 11, Matt rated it really liked it Shelves: Skip to main content. Snyder cites the number 14 million. In fact, he spends as much time with them as any other World War II book.

Bloodlands is their story. If we cannot do that, then Hitler and Stalin have shaped not only our world, but our humanity. The Western allies did little to stop the Holocaust. The very boundaries these countries occupied was itself very fluid during this time period – most particularly Poland – so this also made the borders adjoining Eastern Poland malleable as well.

To dismiss the Nazis or the Soviets as beyond human concern or historical understanding is to fall into their moral trap.